{"id":34314,"date":"2015-02-05T06:25:22","date_gmt":"2015-02-05T06:25:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/?p=34314"},"modified":"2015-11-18T14:51:01","modified_gmt":"2015-11-18T14:51:01","slug":"5-hours-ago-derek-powazek-driverless-cars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/5-hours-ago-derek-powazek-driverless-cars\/","title":{"rendered":"5 hours ago"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>How do stories like this not mention that driverless cars are ILLEGAL now and will be for the foreseeable future?<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/digits\/2015\/02\/02\/uber-chases-google-in-self-driving-cars\/\u00a0\u2026 <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>My smart thermostat can&#8217;t tell the difference between me and my dog, and we want autonomous cars on the road? <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Driving is tricky. Very very tricky. I doubt we&#8217;ll see autonomous cars for decades. And even then, the law will take decades to catch up. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d place this bet: We&#8217;ll see widespread flying delivery drones before we see widespread driverless cars. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Not just because one technology is harder than the other, but because of the legal, social, and psychological barriers to driverless cars. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>My prediction: Google will chase pipe dreams like this only so long as their ad-driven cash firehose holds out.<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/digits\/2015\/02\/02\/uber-chases-google-in-self-driving-cars\/\u00a0\u2026 <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>A lot of sci-fi fantasies go out the window when you can&#8217;t print money anymore. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>And how long will the ad market remain? We&#8217;ve already seen the bottom fall out of print ads. TV is not far behind as viewership falls. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Online advertising is already a shitty business. We&#8217;ve seen search giants fall before. Google will do the same. Only question is when. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>I remember the giant freakout in SF over smart water meters. Water meters! Can you imagine the richter scale freakout over driverless cars? <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Remember all the cities that banned Segways? <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Hell, Portland won&#8217;t even allow Uber here. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>If you think cities will allow driverless cars without a giant fight, wow, you&#8217;re more of a techno utopian than I am. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Always a pleasure chatting with you, Twitter.<br \/>\nhttps:\/\/twitter.com\/fraying\/status\/563033056727281664\u00a0\u2026 <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nDriving is tricky. Very very tricky. I doubt we&#8217;ll see autonomous cars for decades. And even then, the law will take decades to catch up.<small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@fraying The technology is closer than you think. The only real problem is driving in the rain. Water just absolutely screws everything up. <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@divineprofit But it&#8217;s not just a technology problem. (It rarely is.) It&#8217;s a social and legal one. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@fraying This time it seems to be the other way around. Legal headway is moving along nicely. And society seems ready for it&#8230;even eager\u2026 <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@divineprofit You and I live on different planets, then. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@fraying Does your planet have access to surveys?<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/blog.sfgate.com\/techchron\/2015\/02\/02\/people-are-ready-for-self-driving-cars-studies-say\/\u00a0\u2026<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.autonews.com\/article\/20140728\/OEM06\/140729862\/many-drivers-are-ready-for-autonomous-cars-survey-says\u00a0\u2026 <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@divineprofit Heh. Yeah. Examine your sources there, dude. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>\u2028\u2028@fraying You got something better? I don&#8217;t have an agenda here, just confirming public opinion. I&#8217;m all ears. Enlighten me. <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><br \/>\n\t\t\u2028<br \/>\n\u2028\u2028@divineprofit No thanks. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><br \/>\n\t\t\u2028<br \/>\n\u2028\u2028@fraying Great conversation! <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><br \/>\n\t\t\u2028<br \/>\n@divineprofit You started by responding to me. I&#8217;m saying what I have to say. Asking for proof is not the point. In other words, back off. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><br \/>\n\t\t\u2028<br \/>\n\u2028\u2028@fraying I provided data, which you ignored and then insulted me. Conversation over. I already unfollowed. I don&#8217;t have time for your shit. <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><br \/>\n\t\t\u2028<br \/>\n\u2028\u2028@divineprofit You&#8217;re the one challenging a stranger. You need to reexamine your expectations. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><br \/>\n\t\t\u2028<br \/>\n\u2028\u2028@fraying Fuck the fuck off. Honestly. <small>\u2013 \u200f@DivineProfit<\/small><\/p>\n<p>@divineprofit See? Why would you think that was a good idea? <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Again: Driverless cars is not just a technology problem. It&#8217;s a social, psychological, and legal one. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Comparatively, the tech is easy. It&#8217;s the other three that will keep if from happening for a long, long time. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>If Americans have one symbolic totem, it&#8217;s not baseball and it&#8217;s not guns. It&#8217;s CARS. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>As usual, the boosters of new tech are pursuing it without stopping to consider how real people will react to it. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>As a nerd, I think a self-driving car is futuristic and awesome. But as someone who has run communities, I know what the reaction will be. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Not might be. WILL be. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Americans live and die by their cars (literally). It&#8217;s not a technology problem, it&#8217;s an identity problem. Identities change much slower. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n<p>My original point was that, when reporting about self-driving cars, articles might wanna mention that, btw, it would be illegal today. <small>\u2013 @fraying<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How do stories like this not mention that driverless cars are ILLEGAL now and will be for the foreseeable future? http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/digits\/2015\/02\/02\/uber-chases-google-in-self-driving-cars\/\u00a0\u2026 \u2013 @fraying My smart thermostat can&#8217;t tell the difference between me and my dog, and we want autonomous cars on the road? \u2013 @fraying Driving is tricky. Very very tricky. I doubt we&#8217;ll see<a href=\"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/5-hours-ago-derek-powazek-driverless-cars\/\" class=\"read-more\">Read more &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1315,9,18,1652,16],"tags":[1653,147],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34314"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34314"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34314\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34322,"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34314\/revisions\/34322"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34314"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=34314"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.imhd.nl\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=34314"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}